Where to find a place to stand?

Where is one to find a place to stand in the face of the absurd polarity that has been set up in the media as a result of (and with the direct encouragement of) the pope’s visit?

The idea that we must choose between an extreme atheist position on the one hand and Christian virtue on the other demeans atheist and Christian (or Faithful) alike. Life is more complicated than that.

I find this passage from the Pope’s opening remark particularly disturbing:

Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live. I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny”

That comparison is just not on. Its specious and weasly. Atheism does not lead to Nazi tendencies. No more does Christianity make people automatically virtuous. It is an ugly polarity to set up and I’m disappointed to hear a case for it made in public by the Pope. Of course, its not that far rhetorically from the contrary position of Dawkins, who appears to believe that tyranny is the consequence of faith and that virtue is the consequence of atheism.

That kind of thinking is drivel whichever mouth it comes from. Life is more complicated than that and it should be open to people from many different perspectives to build an ethical framework for living. That’s likely to be a secular state, by the way, something that I’d encourage any people of faith to work and pray for.

We didn’t go to war with the Nazis because they were atheists.

If we are ever to develop the goodwill and genuine oikimene that the BBC has been trumpeting this morning as though it arrived when the Papal plane touched down, then we all need to find a better place to stand. The Holy Father should be welcomed with enthusiastic and generous hospitality. His ideas should also be subject to the greatest scrutiny and challenge.

[BTW, he was quoting his own Encyclical, Caritas in Veritate, para 29)

Thought for the Day

The BBC Trust has been discussing Thought for the Day, the slot which appears in the middle of BBC Radio 4′s morning news programme Today. The point at hand is over whether atheists and humanists should have access to the slot.

The thing that has struck me about this debate is how old it all seems.

On the second occasion when I went to be selected for training for the priesthood, the very same topic came up, and that is years ago now. The selection system in those days used to end with an exercise called “10 Minute Topics”. Those being selected had to sit around in a circle and slips of paper would be put in front of the group, face down. When it was your turn, you had to pick up a piece of paper and read out the topic which was written on it. You then had to introduce the topic for 2 minutes, chair a discussion amongst the group members for 7 minutes and then sum up for 1 minute. It was a game I rather enjoyed. Oddly enough, it is one of the things that I most clearly remember from the experience.

Anyway, I turned over my piece of paper to find the topic was “Atheists should be allowed to do Thought for the Day”.

I can also remember the conclusion which the group came to which was quite clear. We agreed that we thought that there would be no great harm done to the Christianity or any other faith if an atheist was allowed to do Thought for the Day, but we thought that Choral Evensong should still be the preserve of believers.

I think that remains my view today.

PS
No discussion of Thought for the Day is complete without directing people to Platitude of the Day: http://www.platitudes.org.uk

Trinity Sermon 2008

Here’s something a little different.

I recorded the sermon this morning and you should be able to hear it if you click on the icon above. The underlying file is quite big (9MB) so this may be only for those who have broadband.

Does it work? Can you hear me? What do you think?

UPDATE

I’ve added the text of the sermon below for any not able to hear. Note that the text that I was preaching from is not the same as what I said. What you see below is the main argument but with the jokes and the conclusion missed out. (A bit like the Bible really….)

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