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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and presumably chiasm is the correct form for this discussion anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and presumably chiasm is the correct form for this discussion anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all comments. (Particularly to Gina, who points us to an organisation that I previously did not know about).

Kimberly - I'm happy for this to be reproduced with acknowledgement and happy for others to point towards it from other blogs.

I've not been clever enough to make an acrostic. Personally, I think that I use chiasma more frequently when speaking in public than I use acrostics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all comments. (Particularly to Gina, who points us to an organisation that I previously did not know about).</p>
<p>Kimberly - I&#8217;m happy for this to be reproduced with acknowledgement and happy for others to point towards it from other blogs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not been clever enough to make an acrostic. Personally, I think that I use chiasma more frequently when speaking in public than I use acrostics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kimberley. It's a very good list and has wide applicability for a number of justice issues I think. Six is a nice round number and the bolded captions are memorable with the resulting explanation clear and direct. I wonder if it could be re-worded to make a handy acrostic or is that just too kitschy? Will think more when my brain recovers from current struggle (marking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kimberley. It&#8217;s a very good list and has wide applicability for a number of justice issues I think. Six is a nice round number and the bolded captions are memorable with the resulting explanation clear and direct. I wonder if it could be re-worded to make a handy acrostic or is that just too kitschy? Will think more when my brain recovers from current struggle (marking).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. -- Kelvin, I find it a really helpful list.  It seems like something that should be circulated beyond the readership of your blog (wide though that is).   Clergy mailing, perhaps?  Inspires?  MU newsletters?  My Weekly and The People's Friend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. &#8212; Kelvin, I find it a really helpful list.  It seems like something that should be circulated beyond the readership of your blog (wide though that is).   Clergy mailing, perhaps?  Inspires?  MU newsletters?  My Weekly and The People&#8217;s Friend?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I think you are right on principle, and I know lots of churches that have made the switch in the States.  It's easy enough to do on paper, too.  But somehow it is just so much easier to &lt;i&gt; say &lt;/i&gt; LGBT than GLBT (though GBTL would be OK verbally).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I think you are right on principle, and I know lots of churches that have made the switch in the States.  It&#8217;s easy enough to do on paper, too.  But somehow it is just so much easier to <i> say </i> LGBT than GLBT (though GBTL would be OK verbally).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan

The I usually added to GLBT is Intersex

Intersex  has nothing to do with sexual preference and should never be included with GLB issues. Some Intersex people are GLB and even T but most are not.

Look at Organisation Intersex International</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan</p>
<p>The I usually added to GLBT is Intersex</p>
<p>Intersex  has nothing to do with sexual preference and should never be included with GLB issues. Some Intersex people are GLB and even T but most are not.</p>
<p>Look at Organisation Intersex International</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your six points, Kelvin, make me fearful of ever posting again! This uncomfortable feeling, that I may be judged and found guity of something that Im not guilty of, just won't go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your six points, Kelvin, make me fearful of ever posting again! This uncomfortable feeling, that I may be judged and found guity of something that Im not guilty of, just won&#8217;t go away.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by ERP software</title>
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		<dc:creator>ERP software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ,
How to become a member :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ,<br />
How to become a member <img src='http://www.thurible.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably know more gay men than lesbians. However, I don't know any lesbian who is openly a member of the MU. I've known quite a few gay men who have been happy (in the past) to admit to being members.

There was an internal debate in the MU about rebranding a few years ago but the decision was taken to retain the name but become more proactive about explaining what it means.

(At least, I think that was the decision - there will be others reading this who can comment with much more authority than I can about this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably know more gay men than lesbians. However, I don&#8217;t know any lesbian who is openly a member of the MU. I&#8217;ve known quite a few gay men who have been happy (in the past) to admit to being members.</p>
<p>There was an internal debate in the MU about rebranding a few years ago but the decision was taken to retain the name but become more proactive about explaining what it means.</p>
<p>(At least, I think that was the decision - there will be others reading this who can comment with much more authority than I can about this).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Listening. Talking. Discussing. LGBT by Erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But do you know more gay men than lesbians anyway?  

The university where I work use to have a Mothers Club which was renamed Parents Club to encourage men to join.   Perhaps the Mothers Union should be renamed Parents Union to emphasize that men and women raise children and that both can join.  Though as a non-Anglican I shouldn't probably be commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But do you know more gay men than lesbians anyway?  </p>
<p>The university where I work use to have a Mothers Club which was renamed Parents Club to encourage men to join.   Perhaps the Mothers Union should be renamed Parents Union to emphasize that men and women raise children and that both can join.  Though as a non-Anglican I shouldn&#8217;t probably be commenting.</p>
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