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		<title>By: Clare Lockhart</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10665</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare Lockhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Adrian Fortescue and O&#039;Connell the only bishop to wear a mitre and carry a pastoral staff in the liturgy is the Ordinary of the Diocese, no matter how many other bishops are in the sanctuary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Adrian Fortescue and O&#8217;Connell the only bishop to wear a mitre and carry a pastoral staff in the liturgy is the Ordinary of the Diocese, no matter how many other bishops are in the sanctuary.</p>
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		<title>By: gvahey</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10661</link>
		<dc:creator>gvahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a few years&#039; time we will perhaps look back and see how silly the C of E is about all this.   Two points worth considering are that (1) there is no such thing as a woman bishop anyway.   We only have the Offices of Bishop, Priest and Deacon.   The fact that a bishop happens to be a woman is neither here nor there. (2)  I recall that when the C of E were against the ordination of women that they had to be warned by an MP that if they did not so ordain women, that the House of Commons would legislate it;  after all the C of E is governed by the Government in England as the State Church.   Even its bishops are chosen and agreed by the Prime Minister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few years&#8217; time we will perhaps look back and see how silly the C of E is about all this.   Two points worth considering are that (1) there is no such thing as a woman bishop anyway.   We only have the Offices of Bishop, Priest and Deacon.   The fact that a bishop happens to be a woman is neither here nor there. (2)  I recall that when the C of E were against the ordination of women that they had to be warned by an MP that if they did not so ordain women, that the House of Commons would legislate it;  after all the C of E is governed by the Government in England as the State Church.   Even its bishops are chosen and agreed by the Prime Minister.</p>
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		<title>By: Bosco Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10639</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosco Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mitregate 3D – the movie!
Hopefully with Peter Jackson directing, and Naomi Watts as the Presiding Bishop. http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/mitregate-3d-the-movie/3500</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mitregate 3D – the movie!<br />
Hopefully with Peter Jackson directing, and Naomi Watts as the Presiding Bishop. <a href="http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/mitregate-3d-the-movie/3500" rel="nofollow">http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/mitregate-3d-the-movie/3500</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10572</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“All this bother about a silly hat! It’s only since the 19th century that some Anglican bishops began wearing mitres.”--Rev. Ross Kennedy

Actually, Fr. Kennedy, American Anglican/Episcopal bishops have been wearing mitres since the 18th century. The Rt. Rev. Dr. Samuel Seabury wore a mitre as part of his Episcopal regalia beginning in 1785 at the first ordination of an Episcopal priest in the USA. He was the first American bishop--of any denomination--to wear one. Bishop Thomas Claggett of Maryland also wore a mitre from his consecration in 1792 to his death in 1816. In fact, the usage here is even older than that. Two non-cannonical Anglican bishops (consecrated by an English non-juror) also wore mitres (and copes) here in America in the 1720s, but were forced to stop functioning in episcopal roles by civil and church authorities.

Kurt Hill
Brooklyn, NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“All this bother about a silly hat! It’s only since the 19th century that some Anglican bishops began wearing mitres.”&#8211;Rev. Ross Kennedy</p>
<p>Actually, Fr. Kennedy, American Anglican/Episcopal bishops have been wearing mitres since the 18th century. The Rt. Rev. Dr. Samuel Seabury wore a mitre as part of his Episcopal regalia beginning in 1785 at the first ordination of an Episcopal priest in the USA. He was the first American bishop&#8211;of any denomination&#8211;to wear one. Bishop Thomas Claggett of Maryland also wore a mitre from his consecration in 1792 to his death in 1816. In fact, the usage here is even older than that. Two non-cannonical Anglican bishops (consecrated by an English non-juror) also wore mitres (and copes) here in America in the 1720s, but were forced to stop functioning in episcopal roles by civil and church authorities.</p>
<p>Kurt Hill<br />
Brooklyn, NY</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10556</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ABC should start getting PR advice form Tony Hayward....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ABC should start getting PR advice form Tony Hayward&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lapinbizarre</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10553</link>
		<dc:creator>Lapinbizarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh how sweet the irony .......&quot;  Thank you for putting words to one of my first reactions to this silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh how sweet the irony &#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;  Thank you for putting words to one of my first reactions to this silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: John B. Chilton</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10552</link>
		<dc:creator>John B. Chilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get attitude on mitregate from the colonies here,
http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/

end shameless plug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get attitude on mitregate from the colonies here,<br />
<a href="http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/" rel="nofollow">http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/</a></p>
<p>end shameless plug</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10544</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not understand what is going on in the head of ++Rowan. As for asking for evidence of ordination. No doubt Colin (Dean of Southwark) and +Nick (Bp of Croydon; Senior Suffragen of Southwark) will have covered all the bases prior to ++Rowan getting involved.

To someone in the pews this just appears to be getting very silly, admirably shown &lt;a href=&quot;http://revjph.blogspot.com/2010/06/mitregate-episcopal-church-responds.html)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pictorially by MP&lt;/a&gt;.

It is unlikely that ++Rowan&#039;s actions will have pleased those he was trying to appease, and will have equally upset those at Southwark last Sunday who were expecting to see ++Katharine with all the regalia appropriate to her office.

Incidentally Kelvin, did you extend an invitation for her to preach at St Mary&#039;s next time she is this side of the Atlantic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not understand what is going on in the head of ++Rowan. As for asking for evidence of ordination. No doubt Colin (Dean of Southwark) and +Nick (Bp of Croydon; Senior Suffragen of Southwark) will have covered all the bases prior to ++Rowan getting involved.</p>
<p>To someone in the pews this just appears to be getting very silly, admirably shown <a href="http://revjph.blogspot.com/2010/06/mitregate-episcopal-church-responds.html)" rel="nofollow">pictorially by MP</a>.</p>
<p>It is unlikely that ++Rowan&#8217;s actions will have pleased those he was trying to appease, and will have equally upset those at Southwark last Sunday who were expecting to see ++Katharine with all the regalia appropriate to her office.</p>
<p>Incidentally Kelvin, did you extend an invitation for her to preach at St Mary&#8217;s next time she is this side of the Atlantic?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitregate (2): &#8220;should I go or should I stay, now?&#8221; &#8211; Maggi Dawn</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitregate (2): &#8220;should I go or should I stay, now?&#8221; &#8211; Maggi Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commentary has emerged elsewhere? Kelvin Holdsworth (Provost of Glasgow&#8217;s St Marys Cathedral) wrote: I suspect this is because the Church of Englandshire does not recognise that women can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] commentary has emerged elsewhere? Kelvin Holdsworth (Provost of Glasgow&#8217;s St Marys Cathedral) wrote: I suspect this is because the Church of Englandshire does not recognise that women can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fr dougal</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20100618/mitregate/#comment-10537</link>
		<dc:creator>fr dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mad bit is a Canadian woman bishop mitred in Engerland years ago - Rowan&#039;s a diddy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mad bit is a Canadian woman bishop mitred in Engerland years ago &#8211; Rowan&#8217;s a diddy!</p>
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