Comments on: A quiet day? http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/ The Blog of the Provost of St Mary's Cathedral, Glasgow Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:21:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gaielle http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/#comment-8692 gaielle Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:44:35 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/?p=6243#comment-8692 As one of The Oblivious who arrived too late to be of assistance, and unknowing of what had happened did not then offer support, I now offer congratulations for A Day Well Done - you evidently arose to the needs of all occasions and - thankfully - survived to tell the tale. Hope Tilly supplied the cuddle. As one of The Oblivious who arrived too late to be of assistance, and unknowing of what had happened did not then offer support, I now offer congratulations for A Day Well Done – you evidently arose to the needs of all occasions and – thankfully – survived to tell the tale. Hope Tilly supplied the cuddle.

]]> By: David |Dah • veed| http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/#comment-8691 David |Dah • veed| Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:42:08 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/?p=6243#comment-8691 We had a very tranquil service. Today is midterm elections. So, since the wee hours of yesterday morning there have been no sales of alcohol and all bars and cantinas closed. We had a very tranquil service. Today is midterm elections. So, since the wee hours of yesterday morning there have been no sales of alcohol and all bars and cantinas closed.

]]> By: Caron http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/#comment-8690 Caron Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:00:45 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/?p=6243#comment-8690 You sound pretty shaken up - certainly a traumatic morning. I have dealt with situations of being threatened with violence at my work so I know how it takes the wind out of your sails. My philosophy about these things is that in the vast majority of circumstances, if we approach them with the right attitude, potentially difficult situations can be diffused. However, there are going to be those you can't do anything about and we need to accept that a) this is the case and b) it's not our fault. I think you and I (and lots of others in our respective lines of work put up with much more challenging behaviour than would be allowed in other environments. It's necessary, but we can't cope with everything. Do you have personal safety information for the church - I hate to use the word policy cos it sounds so rubbish, but you know what I mean. We do for our office and i think they get the balance between openness and security about as good as we can get it. You sound pretty shaken up – certainly a traumatic morning.

I have dealt with situations of being threatened with violence at my work so I know how it takes the wind out of your sails.

My philosophy about these things is that in the vast majority of circumstances, if we approach them with the right attitude, potentially difficult situations can be diffused. However, there are going to be those you can’t do anything about and we need to accept that a) this is the case and b) it’s not our fault.

I think you and I (and lots of others in our respective lines of work put up with much more challenging behaviour than would be allowed in other environments. It’s necessary, but we can’t cope with everything.

Do you have personal safety information for the church – I hate to use the word policy cos it sounds so rubbish, but you know what I mean. We do for our office and i think they get the balance between openness and security about as good as we can get it.

]]> By: fr dougal http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/#comment-8688 fr dougal Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:44:02 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/?p=6243#comment-8688 A rough morning: being threatened in clerical dress is a nasty experience and I thoroughly sympathise It's happen as few times to me. Go and find a good friend and get them to give you a cuddle. Beats any amount of psychotherapy! A rough morning: being threatened in clerical dress is a nasty experience and I thoroughly sympathise It’s happen as few times to me. Go and find a good friend and get them to give you a cuddle. Beats any amount of psychotherapy!

]]> By: RosemaryHannah http://www.thurible.net/20090705/a-quiet-day/#comment-8687 RosemaryHannah Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:04:28 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/?p=6243#comment-8687 Like most liberals, I have pondered this a lot of my life - and it is the usual complaint raised against us, isn't it? We leave others free to do anything but be illiberal - i.e. disagree with us. The limits are those of good governance, though. The restraint of those who take the freedoms of others and only in so far as they take those freedoms. No, the really interesting thing is that it brings us face to face with our limitations. We do not, or we do not yet, have enough power and love to be able to restrain and to welcome, to engulf nasty situations from our own resources. It is a failure - and that is actually a good thing. I can't remember Jesus in the parables criticising any of those who got things wrong - only those who got so paralysed with fear that they clung on to their own sense of righteousness and did not do anything - the bloke with one talent, the two ritually pure blokes in the Good Samaritan. &c. et al. He is really not interested in getting it right, only with being aware of the need to act, and humility before our fellows who also get it wrong, only in different ways. When the kids were young I realised the most important thing I could do for them was to get it very wrong some of the time - and let them get it righter. Taking the lower seat lets others risk messing up big time. Like most liberals, I have pondered this a lot of my life – and it is the usual complaint raised against us, isn’t it? We leave others free to do anything but be illiberal – i.e. disagree with us. The limits are those of good governance, though. The restraint of those who take the freedoms of others and only in so far as they take those freedoms.

No, the really interesting thing is that it brings us face to face with our limitations. We do not, or we do not yet, have enough power and love to be able to restrain and to welcome, to engulf nasty situations from our own resources. It is a failure – and that is actually a good thing. I can’t remember Jesus in the parables criticising any of those who got things wrong – only those who got so paralysed with fear that they clung on to their own sense of righteousness and did not do anything – the bloke with one talent, the two ritually pure blokes in the Good Samaritan. &c. et al. He is really not interested in getting it right, only with being aware of the need to act, and humility before our fellows who also get it wrong, only in different ways.

When the kids were young I realised the most important thing I could do for them was to get it very wrong some of the time – and let them get it righter. Taking the lower seat lets others risk messing up big time.

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