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	<title>Comments on: Called or Collared</title>
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	<description>The Blog of the Provost of St Mary&#039;s Cathedral, Glasgow</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Orear</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5880</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Orear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too distracted to comment on collars and shirt colour because I&#039;m still stymied by the notion that Glasgow would rather have people boozing it up on the streets than smoking in the pubs...

Well, almost too distracted. I say go for the collar and take the verbal abuse. (If it comes to physical, then call every cop in town.) For many years priests accepted unearned respect and honour. (In this corner of the world they got free movie tickets, in order to vet potentially offencive or immoral films, a practise my wife and I are trying to see restarted...not for morality&#039;s sake, but because we&#039;re dirt poor.) We still do, in many quarters, get better treatment than secular professionals. Overall, though, it&#039;s our lot to be priests in a time when respect for the church is low. Sometimes the church deserves low respect, even if we don&#039;t. Sucks to be us, but that&#039;s the reality.

Plus, I find that the collar has been a signal to people in trouble or pain. I&#039;ve had more spontaneous counselling, prayers and genuine connection wearing it than I ever had with a naked neck. If it means getting a snide comment as I pass the pub or a suspicious look from parents with small children (really, people, we&#039;re not ALL paedophiles and the ones who are don&#039;t snatch children off the street in broad daylight in front of their parents) that&#039;s a small price to pay.

All of this is moot, of course, if the attacks are threatening and there&#039;s a real chance of you getting a thrashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too distracted to comment on collars and shirt colour because I&#8217;m still stymied by the notion that Glasgow would rather have people boozing it up on the streets than smoking in the pubs&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, almost too distracted. I say go for the collar and take the verbal abuse. (If it comes to physical, then call every cop in town.) For many years priests accepted unearned respect and honour. (In this corner of the world they got free movie tickets, in order to vet potentially offencive or immoral films, a practise my wife and I are trying to see restarted&#8230;not for morality&#8217;s sake, but because we&#8217;re dirt poor.) We still do, in many quarters, get better treatment than secular professionals. Overall, though, it&#8217;s our lot to be priests in a time when respect for the church is low. Sometimes the church deserves low respect, even if we don&#8217;t. Sucks to be us, but that&#8217;s the reality.</p>
<p>Plus, I find that the collar has been a signal to people in trouble or pain. I&#8217;ve had more spontaneous counselling, prayers and genuine connection wearing it than I ever had with a naked neck. If it means getting a snide comment as I pass the pub or a suspicious look from parents with small children (really, people, we&#8217;re not ALL paedophiles and the ones who are don&#8217;t snatch children off the street in broad daylight in front of their parents) that&#8217;s a small price to pay.</p>
<p>All of this is moot, of course, if the attacks are threatening and there&#8217;s a real chance of you getting a thrashing.</p>
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		<title>By: agatha</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5775</link>
		<dc:creator>agatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;received 9 out of 10 in arguably the most important criteria&quot;
- shoe colour, presumably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;received 9 out of 10 in arguably the most important criteria&#8221;<br />
- shoe colour, presumably.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5746</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but I just discovered that St.Mary&#039;s was featured in the ship of fools &quot;mystery worshipper&quot; section, and received 9 out of 10 in arguably the most important criteria:

http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery/2008/1554.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but I just discovered that St.Mary&#8217;s was featured in the ship of fools &#8220;mystery worshipper&#8221; section, and received 9 out of 10 in arguably the most important criteria:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery/2008/1554.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery/2008/1554.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Chesterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you will wear a clerical collar...</description>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5744</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and of course, my last comment was a bit frivolous.  There are many serious points being made here about discrimination, violence, and how and when it is worth taking a stand and when it is best to pass by quietly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and of course, my last comment was a bit frivolous.  There are many serious points being made here about discrimination, violence, and how and when it is worth taking a stand and when it is best to pass by quietly.</p>
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		<title>By: agatha</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5743</link>
		<dc:creator>agatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - the humour had passed me by....</description>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5742</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agatha, I have long wondered what Trinny and Susannah would do faced with the requirement of black clergy shirts. 

You are quite right that we are not to worry about what we wear.  But I think we are allowed to laugh about it, and at ourselves in the midst of daily decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agatha, I have long wondered what Trinny and Susannah would do faced with the requirement of black clergy shirts. </p>
<p>You are quite right that we are not to worry about what we wear.  But I think we are allowed to laugh about it, and at ourselves in the midst of daily decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Moyra</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5741</link>
		<dc:creator>Moyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me the question of whether or not I wear my habit in public is also dictated by context and safety issues.

I feel safer wearing my habit in the very diverse multi-cultural multi- faith environment in which I&#039;m currently living than I did in the three years I lived in Glasgow. The nuances of which brand of Christianity I belong to matter little here, and what most people I&#039;ve spoken to like is the fact they know I&#039;m a person who takes my faith seriously, and will also respect their faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me the question of whether or not I wear my habit in public is also dictated by context and safety issues.</p>
<p>I feel safer wearing my habit in the very diverse multi-cultural multi- faith environment in which I&#8217;m currently living than I did in the three years I lived in Glasgow. The nuances of which brand of Christianity I belong to matter little here, and what most people I&#8217;ve spoken to like is the fact they know I&#8217;m a person who takes my faith seriously, and will also respect their faith.</p>
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		<title>By: agatha</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5740</link>
		<dc:creator>agatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this a strange blog - sometimes I wonder if it isn&#039;t put together by Trinny &amp; Susannah with its obsession with black!
Didn&#039;t someone quite famous once say that we weren&#039;t supposed to worry about clothes and something about lilies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this a strange blog &#8211; sometimes I wonder if it isn&#8217;t put together by Trinny &amp; Susannah with its obsession with black!<br />
Didn&#8217;t someone quite famous once say that we weren&#8217;t supposed to worry about clothes and something about lilies?</p>
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		<title>By: David Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.thurible.net/20080627/called-or-collared/#comment-5738</link>
		<dc:creator>David Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be an avid 24/6 wearer of the dog collar, Kelvin, but have only worn it two or three times in the context of the school this academic year - and always when we were having a significant number of guests. My thought is that everyone here in this pretty enclosed community knows who I am and what I am and so issues of identification and witness etc are not really relevant. In the end it&#039;s all about context - and so is the issue of personal safety.  But it always has to be black for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be an avid 24/6 wearer of the dog collar, Kelvin, but have only worn it two or three times in the context of the school this academic year &#8211; and always when we were having a significant number of guests. My thought is that everyone here in this pretty enclosed community knows who I am and what I am and so issues of identification and witness etc are not really relevant. In the end it&#8217;s all about context &#8211; and so is the issue of personal safety.  But it always has to be black for me.</p>
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