Comments on: The Gaiter Controversies http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/ The Blog of the Provost of St Mary's Cathedral, Glasgow Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:21:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gaiters on Father Kevin http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-12391 Gaiters on Father Kevin Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:38:28 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-12391 [...] on Friday at 12 noon in the blessed town of Oban, the Holy Spirit will reinstitute the wearing of gaiters to the Episcopate of the Scottish Episcopal [...] [...] on Friday at 12 noon in the blessed town of Oban, the Holy Spirit will reinstitute the wearing of gaiters to the Episcopate of the Scottish Episcopal [...]

]]> By: To Castle Douglas | What's in Kelvin's Head http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-11292 To Castle Douglas | What's in Kelvin's Head Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:59:55 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-11292 [...] The Cathedral Chapter met yesterday in Castle Douglas. If this Provost is going to make a habit of such journeys, its likely that he will begin making a case for a diocesan grant for gaiters. [...] [...] The Cathedral Chapter met yesterday in Castle Douglas. If this Provost is going to make a habit of such journeys, its likely that he will begin making a case for a diocesan grant for gaiters. [...]

]]> By: PamB http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5250 PamB Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:21:57 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5250 Speaking as one who has observed the Praepostorial wearing of gaiters, I am reminded of perhaps the most charismatic-with-a-small-c provost of the 20thC SEC, one Paddy Shannon of Aberdeen. He was responsible for the Pubsign, indeed known in the NE as Paddy's Pubsign, the introduction of the Clergy Tartan, and the use of the Russian Orthodox Litany and Lord's Prayer. His congregation thrived, as did the Cathedral's music. He wore gaiters on every possible formal occasion, and looked splendid, even though his stocky Glaswegian appearance might best be represented in the film of his life by that of Layclerk (In a good way, Gaz, if you're out there!) I think it's to do with Style, which is either worth displaying in Italian Vanity Fair, or not. Speaking as one who has observed the Praepostorial wearing of gaiters, I am reminded of perhaps the most charismatic-with-a-small-c provost of the 20thC SEC, one Paddy Shannon of Aberdeen. He was responsible for the Pubsign, indeed known in the NE as Paddy’s Pubsign, the introduction of the Clergy Tartan, and the use of the Russian Orthodox Litany and Lord’s Prayer. His congregation thrived, as did the Cathedral’s music. He wore gaiters on every possible formal occasion, and looked splendid, even though his stocky Glaswegian appearance might best be represented in the film of his life by that of Layclerk (In a good way, Gaz, if you’re out there!)

I think it’s to do with Style, which is either worth displaying in Italian Vanity Fair, or not.

]]> By: Richard http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5246 Richard Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:27:32 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5246 Kelvin, good news! An advertisement appeared on the left sidebar, for "Women's Gaiters" from rockymountaintrail.com guaranteeing that their women's gaiters, made from a waterproof polyester material, will keep snow out of women's boots. I had not realized that C of E -- or Scotland -- churches were so cold as to require defense against snow. :) I'm back to thinking gaiters may be, at best, an appropriate outdoors defense against the elements but not a liturgical garment. Of course, I could be wrong. Kelvin, good news!

An advertisement appeared on the left sidebar, for “Women’s Gaiters” from rockymountaintrail.com guaranteeing that their women’s gaiters, made from a waterproof polyester material, will keep snow out of women’s boots.

I had not realized that C of E — or Scotland — churches were so cold as to require defense against snow.

:)

I’m back to thinking gaiters may be, at best, an appropriate outdoors defense against the elements but not a liturgical garment. Of course, I could be wrong.

]]> By: Richard http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5245 Richard Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:13:19 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5245 thank you, Kelvin, for the link. But am still baffled. It says that gaiters link to the breeches. I have never seen breeches except on the stage for Shakespeare plays and the BBC Horatio Hornblower DVDs. Who currently wears such a garment? It also states that the purpose of gaiters is to protect the legs either from gorse & brambles or while horseback riding. I knew that the C of E was in some ways antiquarian, but surely they do not impose upon their vicars the requirement that they make their pastoral calls on horseback! The more I read, the more it seems that gaiters should go the way of codpieces, fillets, corsets, and other items of apparel more appropriate for Monty Python routines than actual use. I mean this in a good natured and friendly way, by the way, the written word does not convey the nuances of facial expression, verbal tone, etc. This is all meant kindly and in a friendly manner. thank you, Kelvin, for the link.

But am still baffled.

It says that gaiters link to the breeches. I have never seen breeches except on the stage for Shakespeare plays and the BBC Horatio Hornblower DVDs. Who currently wears such a garment?

It also states that the purpose of gaiters is to protect the legs either from gorse & brambles or while horseback riding. I knew that the C of E was in some ways antiquarian, but surely they do not impose upon their vicars the requirement that they make their pastoral calls on horseback!

The more I read, the more it seems that gaiters should go the way of codpieces, fillets, corsets, and other items of apparel more appropriate for Monty Python routines than actual use.

I mean this in a good natured and friendly way, by the way, the written word does not convey the nuances of facial expression, verbal tone, etc. This is all meant kindly and in a friendly manner.

]]> By: kelvin http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5244 kelvin Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:17:29 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5244 There is a helpful discription <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiters" rel="nofollow">here</a>. So far as I am concerned, gaiters are gender-neutral. There is a helpful discription here.

So far as I am concerned, gaiters are gender-neutral.

]]> By: Richard http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5243 Richard Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:59:12 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5243 here in the Colonies (USA, Episcopal Church USA) I'm afraid to admit to ignorance? What are gaiters? And my parish has a rector who happens to be a woman. Are there equivalent garments for women? here in the Colonies (USA, Episcopal Church USA) I’m afraid to admit to ignorance? What are gaiters?

And my parish has a rector who happens to be a woman. Are there equivalent garments for women?

]]> By: Rev Ruth http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5236 Rev Ruth Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:04:17 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5236 I seem to recall wrestling with a certain retired Bishop of St Andrews, D&D who also had a penchant for the gaiters. He was dreadful in processions and seemed to have forgotten that he was not the current Bishop and therefore should not be at the end of the line. However, on the subject of gaiters, I don't think he particularly cut a dashing figure nor was he an instrument of mission. I fear he just looked like a comedy bishop. I seem to recall wrestling with a certain retired Bishop of St Andrews, D&D who also had a penchant for the gaiters. He was dreadful in processions and seemed to have forgotten that he was not the current Bishop and therefore should not be at the end of the line. However, on the subject of gaiters, I don’t think he particularly cut a dashing figure nor was he an instrument of mission. I fear he just looked like a comedy bishop.

]]> By: Loopy Looe http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5234 Loopy Looe Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:27:53 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5234 Ah yes - had the Psalmist been familiar with gaiters we might have received different words of wisdom..... and I am VERY sure that the Provostorial Gaze would still have been Carefully Averted Elsewhere at that moment........ Ah yes – had the Psalmist been familiar with gaiters we might have received different words of wisdom….. and I am VERY sure that the Provostorial Gaze would still have been Carefully Averted Elsewhere at that moment……..

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5233 Kimberly Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:46:31 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20080328/the-gaiter-controversies/#comment-5233 You are infuriating. I logged on specifically to say 'did you notice that tonight's psalm gave the definitive answer to the gaiter controversy?' But my journey home was rather longer than yours. Best sung word at evensong: tenor 'whithereth'. No grass left standing for miles. You are infuriating. I logged on specifically to say ‘did you notice that tonight’s psalm gave the definitive answer to the gaiter controversy?’ But my journey home was rather longer than yours.

Best sung word at evensong: tenor ‘whithereth’. No grass left standing for miles.

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