Comments on: You almost have to smile http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/ The Blog of the Provost of St Mary's Cathedral, Glasgow Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:21:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kelvin http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4327 kelvin Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:17:22 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4327 Steg - you say, "And why is the Scottish Episcopal church letting the US get the blame for liberalism instead of coming out firmly in favour of equality for homosexuals?" My question is, what is the next thing you would like to happen in Scotland? The Primus is doing his bit this weekend for Inclusive Church. It would seem (!) that same-sex blessings are happening more publicly now than they have been happening before. (I know they have been going on in Scotland for at least 30 years). I'm also not aware of anyone "speaking for the church" who has said anything bad about civil partnerships. I think that most people in church are as unfussed as most people outside the church. So, I'm genuinely interested. What comes next? Steg – you say, “And why is the Scottish Episcopal church letting the US get the blame for liberalism instead of coming out firmly in favour of equality for homosexuals?”

My question is, what is the next thing you would like to happen in Scotland? The Primus is doing his bit this weekend for Inclusive Church. It would seem (!) that same-sex blessings are happening more publicly now than they have been happening before. (I know they have been going on in Scotland for at least 30 years). I’m also not aware of anyone “speaking for the church” who has said anything bad about civil partnerships. I think that most people in church are as unfussed as most people outside the church.

So, I’m genuinely interested. What comes next?

]]> By: steg http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4325 steg Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:48:47 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4325 It's still a bit wimpy of them though isn't it? And why is the Scottish Episcopal church letting the US get the blame for liberalism instead of coming out firmly in favour of equality for homosexuals? I can see that there are some aspects of non- church life that the church wishes to avoid - binge drinking for instance. But why is the church so far behind on good things that have happened, such as civil partnerships? I live in a relatively conservative Scottish town and when I said I was going to a civil partnership party it raised the odd eyebrow, but by and large people weren't remotely fussed. Why can't the church just accept it's a good thing if their clergy can have stable relationships with partner of choice? Signing off in bemusement................... It’s still a bit wimpy of them though isn’t it? And why is the Scottish Episcopal church letting the US get the blame for liberalism instead of coming out firmly in favour of equality for homosexuals? I can see that there are some aspects of non- church life that the church wishes to avoid – binge drinking for instance. But why is the church so far behind on good things that have happened, such as civil partnerships? I live in a relatively conservative Scottish town and when I said I was going to a civil partnership party it raised the odd eyebrow, but by and large people weren’t remotely fussed. Why can’t the church just accept it’s a good thing if their clergy can have stable relationships with partner of choice? Signing off in bemusement……………….

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4324 Elizabeth Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:19:56 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4324 Opps. That 'anonymous' is actually me. I never was great at filling in forms. Opps. That ‘anonymous’ is actually me. I never was great at filling in forms.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4323 Anonymous Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:19:12 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4323 I'm still not quite sure of what to make of the HOB statement except that it more or less reiterated the resolutions of General Convention, which was what I expected. And a timely reminder about the (non)Listening Process. I've seen it said that perhaps the intention was to irk the laity (both conservative and liberal) so that they unite against a common enemy - the HOB. I know they can't say much else without General Convention, but I think they could have said it more clearly. It could have been worse, but I still think it could have been better. But then better would be not having the wretched Gen Con resolution in question anyway, and that won't have a chance to get undone until 2009. I’m still not quite sure of what to make of the HOB statement except that it more or less reiterated the resolutions of General Convention, which was what I expected. And a timely reminder about the (non)Listening Process.
I’ve seen it said that perhaps the intention was to irk the laity (both conservative and liberal) so that they unite against a common enemy – the HOB.

I know they can’t say much else without General Convention, but I think they could have said it more clearly. It could have been worse, but I still think it could have been better. But then better would be not having the wretched Gen Con resolution in question anyway, and that won’t have a chance to get undone until 2009.

]]> By: asphodeline http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4322 asphodeline Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:50:51 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4322 Thank you, I knew I could rely on finding a sensible answer to that report here. I woke with a horrible headache and couldn't work out what the dear BBC reporter was on about! Thank you, I knew I could rely on finding a sensible answer to that report here.
I woke with a horrible headache and couldn’t work out what the dear BBC reporter was on about!

]]> By: Thomas McKenzie http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4321 Thomas McKenzie Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:50:28 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4321 It is the contemporary way of letting your "yes" be "no" and your "no" be "yes," or "for now," or "maybe," or "perhaps" or . . . . It is the contemporary way of letting your “yes” be “no” and your “no” be “yes,” or “for now,” or “maybe,” or “perhaps” or . . . .

]]> By: Eamonn http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4319 Eamonn Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:09:50 +0000 http://www.thurible.net/20070926/you-almost-have-to-smile/#comment-4319 Maybe this is the contemporary way of being 'as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents'! Maybe this is the contemporary way of being ‘as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents’!

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